Having just acquired some foreign motive power .I thought it would be interesting to compair the difference's in what was the ultimate development of the steam locomotives in Victoria and New South Wales.
Having always assumed that the mighty 38 and 57 class was the biggest and best .Its a little embarrassing to find out that those damn Victorians had bigger ones than us in the form of the S Class and of coarse Heavy Harry.
The S Class originally built in 1928 had there tenders increased in size when they where converted to oil burners and streamlined and this is the model I will use to compare.
HH was designed as a passenger loco to haul the Overlander .Because the bridges and track on route where never strengthened it was relegated to freight haulage between Melbourne and Wodonga so we should compare it to the 57 but this still doesn't help matters.
HH Streamline S 38 57
Coal Cap 9 tons 2,000gal oil 14 tons 14 tons
Water Cap 14,000 gal 12,600 gal 8,100 gal 9,000 gal
Weight 260 tons 224 tons 201 tons 228 tons
Grate Area 68 ft2 50 ft2 47 ft2 65 ft2
Cylinders 3 3 2 3
Boiler Pressure 220 lb 200 lb 245 lb 200 lb
Tractive Effort 55,000 lb 41,670 lb 36,200 lb 64,327 lb
Length 92'5 3/4 '' 85 '6 '' 65'7'' 87'6''
Wheel Arrangment 4-8-4 4-6-2 4-6-2 4-8-2
No In Class 1 4 30 25
In Service 2/41 52 1/43 9/29
Last In Service 4/58 9/54 12/70 3/62
Lbs Of Tractive
Effort Per Ton 211.53 186 180 282.13
All Locos are lined up with cab roof overhangs level
Tender Footplates are level
The S Class tender fudges in length a bit with a false back
The pointy end
We can find some solice in the fact that the AD60 Garratt beat HH in weight bye 4 tons but which ever way you look at it HH220 was a monster.But then again the 57 could beat it in tractive effort by 9,300 lbs with 20 lbs less boiler pressure and 32 tons less weight. Making the 57 the clear winner in the weight on rails for pulling effort which is what this design competition is really about.
But if you consider a loaded Big Boy tender at 200 tons . The HH would probably would look like a shunter to the yanks.
No correspondence will be entered into regarding facts and figures and the judges decision is final
The coal capacity for the H class looks a bit light doesn't it?
ReplyDeleteIain
Well thats what I thought to Ian but it seams that we have Correct weight on HH
ReplyDeleteNSW must have had a different operation styles to the VR by wanting to carry more coal and less water.But I always thought NSW had a better quality coal meaning you would require less of it to boil the water.
Im sure someone out there knows ?